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Re: Does God Have Favorites?

May. 11 at 7:16am | see this comment in context

The hierarchy notion, I believe, is all too human and more evident of our own way of thinking and seeing than God's.  If we do appeal to it, it should be modified, as expressed above, to take into account what new insights Therese taught us.

Re: Does God Have Favorites?

May. 11 at 7:14am | see this comment in context

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While some saints may be capable of that ascent ("big souls"), Therese believed that God would 'compensate' for her (and other "little souls'") 'lack of ascent', if you will, if only they keep striving (Therese compared herself to a little bird flapping its wings trying to fly while eagles - great saints - soared above her) and, if only - and this is what is most important - they put all of their trust in God and allow Him to lift them up. 

Therese loved the good thief's story.  She also thought Mary was more mother than queen, and what mother would lord her 'goods' over children she loves so dearly (all of us)?  The hiearchy notion, where everything is measured according to our own 'record' of virtue gets capsized in a sense, as in the Gospels, no?  God's 'favorites' are the little ones there, the lowly.  The standard by which He measures us is our confidence and trust in Him.  That is what allows for our ascent because, paradoxically, we could never ascent on our own - everything is grace - and so the secret is to allow God to lift us up entirely.

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Re: Does God Have Favorites?

May. 11 at 7:03am | see this comment in context

Thank you for replying, Samwise and Marie.

When you talk about growing in holiness, or a hierarchy of practicing virtue / reaching different heights of holiness, what is the standard by which we can 'measure' - so as then to know how we're doing? 

See, this is where I think St. Therese is profound.  Living among 'super nuns' set on doing great works almost in a spiritual / ascetical Olympics type of context, not to mention a long line of saints who seemed to view holiness similarly, Therese believed in a new way. 

Rather than climbing the mountain of virtue - though of course she strove to be virtuous - Therese realized she would always be frustrated by her own weakness.  If there was a hierarchy and the standard was justice, she would never end up where she desired to be.  So, her new way is trust unto folly in God's goodness and mercy.  God would never want to hold us at some distance because of our not having climbed the mountain to the full.

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Re: Does God Have Favorites?

May. 10 at 10:07am | see this comment in context

While I am concerned about the truth of whether such a hierarchy exists and what it means, and while I do not want to be a mere pragmatist, I don't see how this consideration is helpful (at least to me).  When I do consider it, or something like it - gaining "merit" in God's eyes or trying to "merit" greater grace from, or a place with, God - it turns me in on myself.  It seems impossible to love - not only others or God, but even myself anymore.  Everything becomes this spiritual economics, a frantic project of trying to maximize my sanctity while I still have time here.  It's about me, and no longer about anyone else.  I become Pelagian, afraid, uptight.

It becomes self-defeating: trying to get into Heaven and secure a high place there, or trying to ensure that I'll be completely happy forever actually prevents me, in a sense, from doing the very thing that would actually, truly, make me 'worthy' of Heaven and even have a 'higher' place there: that is, to love, to truly 'lose my life' in the good sense of that phrase, to receive God's grace with open hands like little Therese did.

Re: Does God Have Favorites?

May. 10 at 9:42am | see this comment in context

"while God loves each soul infinitely, we respond to this love to different degrees; some of us will become holier than others, and the hierarchical order in Heaven will reflect this."

I always feel discouraged when I think about this.  I will never be as holy or responsive to God's love and grace as I could or should have been.  And so, I don't see how I could be perfectly happy and absolutely fulfilled knowing that I could have responded in a different or better way.  My "particular spot" in Heaven (if I have one) will always also be an indication, implicitly, of what could have been, it seems to me. 

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