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Katie van Schaijik

Continuing the TOB discussion (2)

Nov. 9, 2009, at 11:16am

The 2nd part of the comment thread from the previous post can be found under this post.

Katie van Schaijik

Continuing the TOB discussion

Nov. 9, 2009, at 10:16am

The discussion of CW’s defense of his work having overwhelmed the comment box below, I hereby open a new box, hoping we’ll be able to pick up the thread of that conversation here.


Katie van Schaijik

Continuing the TOB discussion (3)

Nov. 9, 2009, at 12:16am

The 3rd part of the comment thread from the previous post can be found under this post.

Katie van Schaijik

Christopher West breaks silence; answers critics (2)

Oct. 27, 2009, at 12:14pm

The 2nd part of the comment thread of the previous post can be found in the comment section below.

Katie van Schaijik

Christopher West breaks silence; answers critics

Oct. 27, 2009, at 11:14am

There will be more to say about this response to his critics, but for now let me only highlight some of it and urge everyone to read it in full.

The pivotal question as I see it is this: What does the grace of redemption offer us in this life with regard to our disordered sexual tendencies? From there, the questions multiply: Is it possible to overcome the pull of lust within us? If not, what are we to do with our disordered desires? If so, to what degree can we be liberated from lust and how can we enter into this grace? Furthermore, what does it actually look like to live a life of ever deepening sexual redemption?

It is abundantly clear from both Catholic teaching and human experience

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Katie van Schaijik

Christopher West breaks silence; answers critics (3)

Oct. 27, 2009, at 1:14am

The 3rd part of the comment thread of the previous post can be found in the comment section below.

Katie van Schaijik

More on Christopher West

Aug. 24, 2009, at 10:27am

For those interested in the Christopher West/TOB/prudishness discussion, don’t miss this comment box, which has seen some substantive new contributions from Fr. Geiger, Josef Seifert and others in the last few days.


Jules van Schaijik

Question 1: on John Paul II and Hugh Hefner

Jun. 22, 2009, at 5:30pm

Note: After our recent event on human sexuality, recordings of which are now freely available on our site, there was a lively question and answer session. Rather than posting that entire session online, we decided to excerpt four questions from it that are likely to interest many. These questions are posted individually so that they can be discussed separately (in the respective comment boxes).

The first question concerns the comparison that Christopher West sometimes makes, and for which he has been severely criticized (especially since his TV interview), between Hugh Hefner and John Paul II. Click on the link below, and you will hear what West and Healy had to say about the issue.

On JPII and Hugh Hefner (opens in a small popup window)


Jules van Schaijik

Question 2: on prudishness

Jun. 22, 2009, at 5:29pm

The next question had to do with the definition of prudishness. Both Healy and West were asked to give concrete examples, and thereby clarify their meaning.

On prudisness (opens in a small popup window)

By the way, some discussions on prudishness have already taken place in the Linde. Clicking the appropriate tag above will lead to those.


Jules van Schaijik

Question 3: on concupiscence

Jun. 22, 2009, at 5:28pm

Some critics of West have argued that he underestimates the role of concupiscence in human life, and that he sometimes even goes so far as to suggest that it can be rooted out completely (in this life). A question was raised concerning this very issue, which gave West a chance to clarify his position.

On concupiscence (opens in a small popup window)


Jules van Schaijik

Question 4: how sexual intimacy can be a revelation (and gift) of self

Jun. 22, 2009, at 5:27pm

The last question we thought was worth posting has to do with the way in which “sexual activity” can become an expression of love and a gift of self.

Sexual intimacy and self-giving


Jules van Schaijik

Is there any precedent for West’s views in the tradition?

Jun. 21, 2009, at 1:21pm

Even though I agree with Katie’s point (in the previous post) about there being legitimate (even desirable) ways of being “out of step” with Catholic tradition, I would still like to see some evidence for claims such as that “liturgists and theologians from the early days of the Church have understood the Easter Candle just as West does.”

Does anyone know of any?


Katie van Schaijik

Fr. Geiger’s latest on the West debate (continued 3)

Jun. 20, 2009, at 8:41pm

See below for the 4th part of the comments elicited by Fr Geiger's latest on the West debate.

Katie van Schaijik

Fr. Geiger’s latest on the West debate (continued 2)

Jun. 20, 2009, at 8:40pm

See below for the 3rd part of the comments elicited by Fr Geiger's latest on the West debate.

Katie van Schaijik

Fr. Geiger’s latest on the West debate (continued 1)

Jun. 20, 2009, at 8:39pm

See below for the 2nd part of the comments elicited by Fr Geiger's latest on the West debate.

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